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bradpinder
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:41 pm |
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how is the Snake-eyes orgin?
was thinking about picking it up, was wondering if its a good read.
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Cobra Commander 1973
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:50 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:22 pm Posts: 527 Location: USA
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You mean the "Snake Eyes: Declassified" mini-series?
If you are, then I'd suggest buying the issues/trade in a heartbeat. It is my favorite Declassified story, right behind Larry Hama's GI Joe Declassified.
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Antarctica
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:37 pm |
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Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:31 pm Posts: 3149 Location: Swaziland, Africa & Los Angeles
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Snake-Eyes is a the main character of GI Joe, even though it is a tem and essemble kind of book. All major stories usually involve him and his past.
Similar to Wolverine in the X-Men.
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Spectre
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:55 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:30 pm Posts: 648 Location: Delaware
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Declassified is def. worth the money. If you're familar with the Marvel Series, you'll enjoy how they weave that into Snake-Eyes' story, as well as filling in some of the blanks.
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bradpinder
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:12 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:18 pm Posts: 33
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cool, im going to pick it up
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Janus
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:57 pm |
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Antarctica wrote: Snake-Eyes is a the main character of GI Joe, even though it is a tem and essemble kind of book. All major stories usually involve him and his past.
Similar to Wolverine in the X-Men.
The sad thing is it wasn't always that way. They had plenty of the early issues without him in it. Then after a while it was GI Joe starring Snake eyes.
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RainbowSix
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:58 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 1067 Location: Manila, Philippines
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bradpinder wrote: how is the Snake-eyes orgin?
was thinking about picking it up, was wondering if its a good read.
Well, that's depending on how far you're willing to suspend your disbelief when you read parts II & VI-for me, they were the weak points.
Part II has SE being conned into working with Cobra Commander-several Joe fans over at the DD Board found this unconvincing; in Part VI, the segment seemed rushed- while not offering anything new-we never saw how Scarlett first reacted to knowing SE got disfigured, and DD took liberty with the attire of SE & Scarlett on their first meeting off post (if you have Marvel's GI Joe#27, you'll see what I mean)
Plus, the art for Part 6 was wrong in that Mr. Santalucia all portrayed the Joes and Cobras well older than they should-remember this was supposed to be in the early 1980s. Pat Quinn's take on the Joes artwise in GI Joe Declassified was more in keeping with the period.
Oddly enough, in Part III, Sato resents Snake Eyes as he is a Westerner-and he does so even before Firefly goaded him-yet why doesn't he resent the Blind Master who's also an American-and who happens to be the Hard Master's best friend (GI Joe #91)?
Still, the decision to pick it up is yours,Hope you like it. I picked it up only because I'm a Snake Eyes fan and Fatherlove sent apersuasive PM. 
_________________ "In war, there can be no sustitute for victory."
-General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
"Speak your mind. After all, it's a free country."
-Captain America
"Risk is our business."
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RainbowSix
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:03 pm |
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Antarctica wrote: Snake-Eyes is a the main character of GI Joe, even though it is a tem and essemble kind of book. All major stories usually involve him and his past.
Similar to Wolverine in the X-Men.
I couldn't agree more with SE being the main character of GI Joe . Actually, he, Scarlett-as the series' lead heroine-, Hawk & Stalker are the real anchors of the GI Joe series. Its a shame a lot of fans keep thinking SE is overused; in a way DD did that when they had Mainframe tell Flint in GI Joe #9 "Now that Snake Eyes is here..." that sort of made it appear GI Joe is too dependent on Snake Eyes, something Larry Hama never did in the Marvel series. Its all perception.
_________________ "In war, there can be no sustitute for victory."
-General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
"Speak your mind. After all, it's a free country."
-Captain America
"Risk is our business."
-Captain James T. Kirk
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ratchet
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:20 pm |
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bradpinder wrote: how is the Snake-eyes orgin?
was thinking about picking it up, was wondering if its a good read.
I think it's excellent and really well put together. I have the hard cover, and I reread it atleast once a month since it came out. Personally, I think it is Devils Dues finest work.
_________________ R.I.P. William Kessler aka "Billy"
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Hebime
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:51 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:29 am Posts: 2505 Location: Osaka, Japan
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JUst re-read it so I thought Id share my opinions.
The bit with Cobra Commander left me a little cold when I first read it. But, when you tell a story that people have been waiting for for such a long time, it can never really be as cool as the fans hope it is. I only read it once as it was coming out, and when I re-read it, I was fine with it. Yes, it does tighten the circle a bit more, drawing the characters closer that they were before, but that comics. If there were no connections there'd be no drama, just a series of action sequences and that would wear thin quickly. What is sometimes derided as the 'soap opera' parts of the book are the real reason the story endured.
While the last 2 issues were a bit thing on new material, it all fit well and the ending was great.
As to RB6 comments, well, the basic suspension of disbelief required for Joe is more than sufficient for this story. As for the Joes being 'too old', lets not forget that SE and Tommy were in 'Southeast Asia', not Vietnam. This was done to uncouple it from its 80's origins, lest people do the math and realize SE would be on mandatory retirement. Marvels unwritten policy on the passage if time is that everything started 5 years ago. By that I mean that what ever year it it, Spider-Man has only been Spider-Man for 5 years, Cap has only been unfrozen for 5 years, etc. This deals with how to tell stories of characters that don't age, because who wants to read about old super-heroes.
I think it's best to consider the same for Joe. No 7 year gap between the series, no clinging to 80's timing, just one smooth story that I hope to enjoy until I'M the one on mandatory retirement.
_________________ Sic vis pacem, para bellum -- The core of the GI Joe fantasy is loyalty. The fantasy isn't about shooting at Cobra, the fantasy is about 'If I get left behind, Snake Eyes will come and get me.' -Larry Hama, CHUD Interview
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Ouroboros
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:04 pm |
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I will be the only one but it was a waste of money only M&A II was a bit worse with the forced mister snake leather camo.
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General Scarlett
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:38 pm |
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Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:56 am Posts: 339 Location: Connecticut
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I'm of the mindset that Snake Eyes is a commando who studied martial arts......not the uber-ninja that so many have come to revere him as.....
That being said, I enjoyed reading the origins.......but then I just delved right back into my own Joeverse....and so did Snake Eyes.....heheh 
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